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  Who was more selfless? Jesus or Brenda Lee Marquez McCool?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  jesus was a perfect sinless human (they say) who came to die for mankind.

  he gave up his perfect life for all.

  selfless?

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  keyser soze

  This was always one of the things that baffled me about the bible- how Jesus supposedly gave his life for the rest of us.

  Um, no. He slept for three days then was rewarded with a kingship.
  
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  Former Jehovah's Witness admits: We targeted grief-stricken as 'ripe fruit'

  by Londo111 in

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  http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/80708572/former-jehovahs-witness-admits-we-targeted-grief-stricken-as-ripe-fruit.

  jehovah's witnesses target grief and see the recently bereaved as "ripe fruit" for conversion, a former elder of the faith says.. vince and michele tylor​ spoke out after reading the story of wellington woman jean sergent-shadbolt, who received a handwritten letter from a jehovah's witness three months to the day after her step-cousin, friend and flatmate died.. a current senior elder of the faith says it has no policy to target grieving, and those who do so are acting on their own initiative.

  however, he concedes such people may feel guided by jehovah's witness literature.. but vince tylor said he knew of members who would trawl though obituaries to find grieving people, or visit cemeteries.. "not only do we see watchtower printed material suggesting and supporting writing letters from obituaries such as what jean received, but we even have reports and articles of encouragement for jws to go to cemeteries to look for people as well.".

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  keyser soze

  I recall a number of years ago how some sister got my ex wife to go through the news paper obituary and write to people who had just lost a loved one

  I have a workmate who was called on by a JW who had gotten his name and address off of a registry at a mutual acquaintance's funeral. Lord knows how many others on the registry they called on.
  
  
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  Reaction of the JW believers to the 2016 RC

  by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

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  there are threads on the content of the rc and reaction of awake jws here, but how are indoctrinated jws reacting to the convention.

  my family and i have not attended yet, but i am bracing myself for it.

  anybody talking in jw circles?

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  keyser soze

  I'm sure it will go down as the greatest convention ever until next year.

  To be fair, the bar is usually set pretty low.
  
  
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  Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

  by Formerbrother in

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  http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

  its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

  it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

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  keyser soze

  Do you try to deny the Vatican has a bloodthirsty past and have amassed huge stockpiles of gold? All of this large secret gold stockpile is stained with blood.

  
  I won't deny the blood on the Vatican's hand, if you don't deny the blood on the WT's. Deal?

  My point is that both have amassed wealth at the expense of its members. At least the Catholic church is giving back. How many hospitals and charities have the WT established? What are they contributing to society, other than unsolicited wake up calls on Saturday morning?
  
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  Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

  by Formerbrother in

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  http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

  its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

  it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

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  keyser soze

  The amusing part is that this same poster, on a previous thread, went into a diatribe about how much wealth the Catholic church is hoarding from its constituents. Now he's awestruck by this.
  
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  Former Jehovah's Witness admits: We targeted grief-stricken as 'ripe fruit'

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/80708572/former-jehovahs-witness-admits-we-targeted-grief-stricken-as-ripe-fruit.

  jehovah's witnesses target grief and see the recently bereaved as "ripe fruit" for conversion, a former elder of the faith says.. vince and michele tylor​ spoke out after reading the story of wellington woman jean sergent-shadbolt, who received a handwritten letter from a jehovah's witness three months to the day after her step-cousin, friend and flatmate died.. a current senior elder of the faith says it has no policy to target grieving, and those who do so are acting on their own initiative.

  however, he concedes such people may feel guided by jehovah's witness literature.. but vince tylor said he knew of members who would trawl though obituaries to find grieving people, or visit cemeteries.. "not only do we see watchtower printed material suggesting and supporting writing letters from obituaries such as what jean received, but we even have reports and articles of encouragement for jws to go to cemeteries to look for people as well.".

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  A current senior elder of the faith says it has no policy to target grieving, and those who do so are acting on their own initiative. However, he concedes such people may feel guided by Jehovah's Witness literature.

  Funny how their "official" policy often differs from what's in their literature, and what's promoted at meetings.
  
  
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  JWs exist because...

  by oldskool in

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  one sentence answers only.. here's mine:.

  jws exist because people want an escape from the modern world and are willing to give up intellectual freedom to get it..

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  keyser soze

  They exist because deferring spiritual authority to others is easier than seeking answers yourself.
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  Is it Okay for a JW to be a Storm Chaser?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i am thinking about chasing storms for fun.

  i know it is very dangerous.

  i just think it will be very cool to have a new exciting hobby.

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  keyser soze

  What makes you think it will be "fun", other than taking Twister a bit too seriously?
  
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  It's official...

  by DATA-DOG in

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  the gibbering buddies are guided by jeehipity-hop!

  how can i say this with 100% confidence?

  well, an emotionally unstable eldub was talking about "mobile devices.

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  keyser soze

  Our brothers are losing their litteratrash, but they can use "mobile devices" to study, and have meetings, and preach!

  Yeah, that's the reason they should embrace technology; in case the government comes to take their literature away. Not because it's the 21st century and it makes life so much easier.
  
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  Oldest Person Alive

  by bemused in

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  following the death of susannah jones of the us on 12 may 2016, the oldest person alive today is emma morano of italy.. many years ago i remember my recently converted relative desperately trying to convince me that i too should become a witness because the world was certain to end before the last person who was 15 or older at the outbreak of the first world war had passed away, so time was short if i was to have any hope of reaching paradise etc etc.. i didn't become a witness and, although i know that jw doctrine has changed since then, it's interesting to note that the late ms jones was born on 6 july 1899 so had just reached 15 when ww1 started on 28 july 1914; ms morano was born on 29 november 1914 so was only 14 at the outbreak of war.

  there is no one living who was 15 or older at the beginning of ww1.

  i wonder if my relative and other zealous witnesses from that period ever reflect on the nonsense they were preaching then?.

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  keyser soze

  You mean it's not Keith Richards?